There are so many layers here; I am struggling to fit it all in a blog post. While certain polarities in it are obvious (art/life, good/evil, parent/child, youth/inexperience, virgin/seductress...), my view of it is that it is first and foremost a story of mental derangement. THAT, I didn't see coming.
I like the unexpected. Examples: Pretty early into the film, I figured out that our protagonist suffered from some hallucination, yet I was never quite sure how much, as I went along. Kept me on edge. The male choreographer character demanded less technical perfection from our ballerina, and more visceral response to the Odile character in Swan Lake. Cool. It was obvious early on that the storyline was echoing that of the Swan Lake narrative. James Wolcott (Vanity Fair) makes unique observations that, more than a black vs. white juxtaposition, Aronofsky uses virginal pink (Nina's bedroom) set against demon red.
Natalie Portman has come of age. As Nina Sayers, her primary acting tool here was her breathing. I was in awe of how that was used for varying purposes; found myself almost mirroring some of it. When she is finally able to tap in to her "dark" side and channel it on stage, her dancing (especially in contrast to earlier meek rehearsals) took MY breath away.
Barbara Hershey was chilling as the asphyxiating stage mother/has-been dancer.
Director, Darren Aronofsky uses close, rapid, mobile camera work that made this viewer feel like I was moving on-stage with Portman, or rushing with her down a street. Another viewer told me she felt like the camera conveyed the dark shadow of paranoia that accompanied Sayers everywhere. What's most sad in this tale, is that Nina's dark side was with her all that time; she need not "nurture" it. And so, with us all...?
There is a fine line between ambition and obsession, even between good and evil.
I'm going to surmise that some may hate this movie because it's gross, disturbing and not fun. I had a moment of that conclusion. But then I decided to dismiss that and simply look at the film away from my predictions and expectations. I suppose the ending was a little hokey, but ballet is high drama. Even Sayers demise is metaphorical, no?
Black Swan was fascinating, gripping, entertaining, and it resisted the temptation of indicting an industry. Nina Sayers was mentally ill. Period.
By now, readers, you know my litmus test: am I still thinking about this film days later? I am still thinking about Black Swan. And, I want to see it again. I'll know when to shut my eyes.
Valerie, we could not agree more about this film. My, what a gem! I am still thinking about the flick days later.
ReplyDeleteI think you have nailed the theme of insanity as the primary mover perfectly. Did I say the "P" word? Of course, our heroine seeks perfection in her work, and this drive is what begins to pull her apart.
Black Swan is actually pure Kafka in The Metamorphosis. Or Camus, in the Stranger. Or Dostoyevsky in Crime and Punishment. Or any of the writers who so brilliantly portray the mental decay of a protagonist.
Natalie's character is of course both black and white, good and evil, just as you pointed out. But most of all she is a person surrounded by pure TOXICITY: She has a toxic mother, toxic lover (at least in her mind), toxic director, and above all toxic role in Odile.
Oh, has Ms Portman come of age! I was first dazzled by her as a child actor in The Professional. Opposite Jean Reno, she was so vulnerable, scared, and caring all at once. Later, she did just okay as the princess in the Star Wars rebirth. But here: WOW! In my book, she's hands down the Oscar Best Actress winner this year.
Now for a touch of negative, just to keep myself honest. Wish we knew our main protagonist better. What drove her to this state? Would flashbacks have helped? Also, do we really feel that close to her as she falls apart? If we did, the demise would have been all the more tragic.
Nevertheless....Grade of A+. A brilliant, superb film that exudes genius.
I very much agree regarding what it needed. I always search for the "back story." Just saw a re-visit of Dennis Hopper with Charlie Rose and even while he was promoting the (just-out) Speed, and saying how much he loved his evil character, he kept saying, "But there was no back-story, man, there was no understanding of the MAN!" I guess here we must assume growing up with that mother would be enough. I do think it is enough to drive an undeveloped mind mad, yet it is always fascinating in the real world why some succumb to their surroundings and others do not. We will probably never know. It's like that one bad apple in every family. Yep, the more I think about it, it IS the mom. Actually, I saw that as the only toxin here.
ReplyDeleteGood point about closer to her. Could she have been a bit more sympathetic. May depend on who is watching it.
We have not considered her sexuality. She struggles with desires and repression of those desires...and of course bi-sexuality. The director links her ultimate performance as Odile white/black to her opening up, become more sexual, with him, as it were. I would say that her conflicts in this area become toxic like so many other aspects of her life. Mom is a bitch, no doubt. But why is the poor girl still living with Mom? In truth, we know so little about the protagonist. Your Dennis Hopper quote is pertinent...just wish we had more "back-story" on Natalie's character. YET: superb film overall...5 star in my book.
ReplyDeleteHere's a thought David (one I shared with Valerie over lunch today): What if her mother isn't alive? On my second viewing of the film, I couldn't help but wonder if her mother was already dead from the start. The madness portrayed is paranoid schizophrenia with a twist: Nina's interactions are sometimes with actual people who are not present for the interaction. So what if her mother is already dead and now embodies what Nina fears she will become? I think of the mother's room, which was filled with self-portraits, yet one camera shot clearly shows that it is Nina's photo clipped to the easel. This would juxtapose her relationship with Lily, as Lily is both what she fears and longs to become while her mother is what she fears and dreads becoming. I was taken with the number of times Nina saw her own face in the place of Lily's, underscoring the cognitive dissonance that was exploding Nina's fragile psyche.
ReplyDeleteI've seen the movie twice now, and I find myself wanting to see it a third time. That's a rare thing!
I am tempted to say, to quote the Beach Boys, "Help me, Rhonda!" Indeed, you make some fantastic points. As I think about those scenes with the mother, I too now wonder if she is for real. What if Nina actually lives alone? What if she recalls past events with Mom? Or what if Mom never was the bitch that Nina envisions? Wow. So many layers to this masterpiece. Must run out and see it again! Thanks for your perceptive additions.
ReplyDeleteBeing a big fan of Darren Arronofsky (his "Requiem For A Dream" was what inspired me to become an editor), I was so excited to see this film, and was surprised that it lived up to the hype I'd created for it. I really loved the direction, the editing, the cinematography... I love that Arronofsky always manages to make the viewer feel what the characters are feeling. I felt that the way the camera was always following Nina, or looking over her shoulder (as in the subway scenes) were symbolic of her feeling that someone was always following her.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Mom - the breathing was key to Portman's performance. Even in the brief moment of happiness we see when she wins the role of the swan, she is gasping for breath, then holding her breath with a tearful smile, the veins in her neck taut.
I have to disagree with one note in this review though: I think her death was literal. My friend Shannon and I discussed it last night and agreed that it must be. It was a strange moment, but it's the only one of her injuries that any other character acknowledges. Maybe I need to see it again.
On New Year's Eve coming home from Brooklyn, I was surrounded by drunk hipsters that kept yelling at each other: "NO, the end of 'Black Swan' was AMBIGUOUS!" "No, it was LITERAL!!" Any movie that can inspire this much discussion, from the L-train to Arizona, is (I think) an instant classic.
While I referred to Nina's demise being "metaphorical," my thought was in addition to her actual bleeding, as in the ultimate demise of the mad mind. (I liked your astute observation of its authenticity.)
ReplyDeleteGood points, J.
So, here's a question: as a writer, what would your reaction be to readers' ambiguous response to something you wrote: amusement, frustration, irritation, arrogance?
Strictly as a writer, I think an ambiguous response is very gratifying; you're making people think, and discuss, and you're giving room for interpretation. In writing, ambiguousness is very often intentional.
ReplyDeleteIn other media, however, it can take on a lot of different forms. As an artist, I get quite frustrated when people don't "get" my art. It should be clear, or at least have a definite meaning (or interpretation) to each viewer. As an editor, ambiguous is synonymous with confusing, and means we've failed (at least in commercial editing).
But in the form of film, especially of this type, it seems manipulative in a great way - in a purely Arronofsky way. One that's meant to inspire discussion - just like this one!
What do you guys think?
OK, mom and daughter, let's back up a bit! First your comments, Jenna: YOu make three excellent points... great use of camera so we "feel" Nina's fear, good focus on "breathing" as a tension-builder, and wide appeal so as to create public debate on subway! I agree. Of the three issues, I'm most fascinated with the camera work. We "see" Nina's mom, lover, boss, colleagues, and eventual decay through camera angles and brief glimpses. Now all of this fine camera technique creates...ambiguity! Indeed, it is ambiguity that forms the magic of this flick. What's real? What isn't? Can't truly agree that we "know" that her death is real at the end... what if she is imagining this very ending? As I suggested, the great depicters of mental erosion in literature offer a blurred, questionable, fact-or-fantasy view of life. I happen to love ambiguity in film. Thus I appreciate your view, mama Valerie, about Nina's demise being metaphorical. For a more "concrete" look at mental deterioration, check out Michael Douglass in Falling Down.
ReplyDeleteLove the discussion. Here's my last surmise re the conclusion. As I ponder further, let's pretend she imagines this last bloody end. Then what is the REAL end? That this demented girl danced her perfect dance and just collapsed? Where is the closure in that? Hmmm?
ReplyDeleteRe ambiguity: thought-provoking response, daughter! Ironically, it seems somewhat opposite for me. Seems art often wants to be ambiguous (i.e. "abstract"). It is so in the mind of the artist and her rendition, whereas, writing forces one to use the concrete vehicle of words. Ambiguity in writing, for me, takes more the form of universality. I can speak in general terms of, say, loss, knowing what I mean specifically, while you, the reader, may apply the general experience of loss to your own experience and specifics. But the writer does not want the reader to feel so ambiguous that he or she does not even realize it's about loss.
Ambiguity in film is more valid as film falls within entertainment, hence more of a group experience that encourages discussion. Right, Alfred Hitchcock?
Editing particularly must avoid confusion because you are having to take pieces of puzzle and "solve" for us, unless, that is, you are editing Memento, but even then it must make sense by the end.
Wow, I'm enjoying this exchange too! As for the end of Black Swan, Nina dies as Odile dies...in a make-believe world....but after the last scene of any ballet, the performers get up and take their bows. So they don't really die, do they? Or does poor Nina really manage to kill herself? I offer this compromise: the answer may well be moot. The important issue is that Nina comes apart psychologically as she excels physically. The stresses on ballerinas must be enormous. And many are driven by crazy mamas. Here's another layer of reality to consider: Natalie Portman was a child actress at 10. She entered Hollywood at such a young age because of a pushy parent...just like Brooke Shields and other kiddie starts. Now adult Natalie is so fragmented she is crazy in love with a dancer, pregnant, and sounds as if she has the maturity of a teen (at least on the Golden Globes). So I offer this new layer: Natalie suffers, Nina suffers, Odile suffers....this may well be the price of fame.
ReplyDeleteI am entering this discussion late, having just seen the film today.
ReplyDeleteBreathtaking. I don't think I blinked for the entire hour and forty five minutes. Like Jenna, I first fell in love with Arronofsky's style in "Requiem for a Dream." In that movie, as in "Black Swan," the depiction of the deterioration of the mind was perfect.
One of the elements of Portman's portrayal of Nina that I most responded to was the fear. It was as if she was aware, although fleetingly, that her mind was becoming warped. There are few moments of clarity, but when they appear, you can feel Nina's terror. There are few things as frightening as losing one's Self.
I'm intrigued by the idea that her mother may not have been with her at all. I hadn't considered it at first, but it makes sense. Her mother was nurturing and supportive one moment, destructive and jealous the next. Personification of Nina's white/black transformation, perhaps?
I will be seeing this movie again, and probably again after that.
Thanks, Cassie, for adding to our comments. I like your observation on fear. Yes indeed, fear is at the very heart of Nina's demise. I'd say: fear of mother, dance, dance master, imperfection, sexuality, and acceptance. The issue of acceptance, or lack thereof, by her fellow dancers is a strong theme. The women seem to hate her, out of spite and jealousy. How much does this rejection add to her emotional implosion? Good point you make: Fear appears most during moments of clarity...had not considered that.
ReplyDeleteBRAVO, ALL!
ReplyDeleteI see why everyone struggles with this movie. I haven't yet processed it well enough--I am writing minutes after finishing.
ReplyDeleteWhat I liked: the director--the shots, the casting, and so on; the ambiguous characters--like Rhonda I wondered if the mom was really alive (glad I am not the only one, because I thought I was out on a limb); Mila Kunis--she was the breath of reality and I appreciate the balance she brought to Portman's character.
What I didn't like (but ultimately found credible to the writing and directing): I couldn't (thankfully)relate to the main character--I have a difficult time watching people who can't help themselves (then again, she is certainly mentally ill); the transparent motifs--the color stuff drove me crazy with the obtuseness--again, the point.
Despite what I didn't like, I know I know I know: that was the point and it added to the overall "drive you crazy just like Nina bit".
I don't want to like this movie. And while I am not gaga about it, I do find it incredibly effective.